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Cindy
April 25th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Calvary Chapel Alert

A Leading New Age and Emergent Church Leader is to be Featured at a Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque Event

Moriel has received a number of inquiries and comments regarding the invitation by Skip Heitzig extended to Leonard Sweet, the New Age Christian mystic usually identified with the “Emergent Church”, a movement against which senior Calvary pastor and founder Pastor Chuck Smith publicly opposed.

The event s to be held at Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque along with the so-called music ministry of a Roman Catholic worship leader in what has been described as the first official New Age/Ecumenical event to take place at a Calvary Chapel. This despite the majority of Calvary Chapel pastors not subscribing to the event’s Ecumenical agenda who support the expressed position of Pastor Chuck Smith opposing tenets and practices of the Post-Modern mysticism defining the Emergent Church, seeking to prevent it from entering into Calvary Chapels. The announcement follows a public financial scandal reaching the secular press at the same church in 2008.

Moriel cannot speak for Skip Heitzig and we urge those contacting us to rather direct their comments and questions to him. Moriel and Jacob Prasch do dismiss Leonard Sweet as a dangerous deceiver, and although not opposed to Catholic people we reject Ecumenical union of any kind with Roman Catholicism. We also firmly endorse the position expressed by Pastor Chuck Smith in opposition to this “emergence” which was undertaken by him in a personally painful yet noble and necessary reaction to its attempted influx into a Calvary Chapel in California. Moriel and Jacob Prasch also sanction the caveats issued to Calvary Chapel pastors by former New Ager Warren Smith who was invited by Chuck Smith to address a major Calvary Chapel pastors conference regarding these faulty trends.

Moriel additionally views this episode as but another symptom of a much larger still brewing problem plaguing many mega-churches and threatening scriptural orthodoxy in the Body of Christ at large and its future. These concerns are addressed in our much more detailed article “Who Wants To Be Next?”

Below is one of the articles we have been forwarded concerning scheduled events in Albuquerque.

Jacob Prasch
Moriel Ministries

National Worship Leader Conference & Calvary Chapel Host New Age-Emergent Mystic

By Way of Life – Posted on 03 April 2010

The upcoming National Worship Leader Conference at Calvary Chapel in Albuquerque will feature “New Age sympathizer and emerging church leader” Leonard Sweet (Lighthouse Trails, March 26, 2010). The conference is sponsored by Worship Leader magazine, the chief editor for which is Chuck Fromm, Calvary Chapel founder Chuck Smith, Sr.’s nephew. Leonard Sweet is a United Methodist clergyman, E. Stanley Jones Professor of Evangelism at Drew University, and founder and president of Spirit Venture Ministries. He promotes a New Age universalist spirituality that he calls New Light and “the Christ consciousness.” He describes it in terms of “the union of the human with the divine” which is the “center feature of all the world’s religions” (Quantum Spirituality, p. 235). He says it was experienced by Mohammed, Moses, and Krishna. Some of the “New Light leaders” that have led him into this new thinking are Matthew Fox, M. Scott Peck, Willis Harman, and Ken Wilber, all of whom believe in the divinity of man, plus the Catholic-Buddhist monk Thomas Merton. Sweet says humanity needs to learn the truth of Merton’s words, “We are already one” (Quantum Spirituality, p. 13). Sweet defines the New Light as “a structure of human becoming, a channeling of Christ energies through mind body experience” (p. 70). Contemplative mysticism has been permeating evangelicalism for decades and it is one of the foundational elements of the emerging church (See the titles “The Emerging Church” and “Contemplative Mysticism,” which are available from Way of Life Literature in print and e-book editions.) Contemporary Worship Music (CWM) is mystical in itself. It focuses on an emotional experience, which is why rock & roll is the preferred form of music. CWM’s leaders and participants are “hooked on a feeling.” They are intoxicated with pop music and are led more by their emotions than by God’s holy Word. (Southern Baptist pastor Rick Warren has also promoted Leonard Sweet.)

(Friday Church News Notes, April 2, 2010, www.wayoflife.org (http://www.wayoflife.org/)fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143)Way of Life’s blog (http://www.practicalbible.com/blog/8)
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Cindy
April 25th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Who Wants to Be Next?

The Second Sin of King David

Is it a saga of shame, betrayal, and foolishness by those who should (and actually do) know better, or is it more a matter of biblical ignorance, a misplaced zeal, pandering to the pressures of theocratic politics, or convoluted loyalties, or a lack of wisdom from above?

There is no doubt that God’s PEACE plan is the redemptive and regenerative Gospel of Jesus alone; there is no true salvation in any other Name (Acts 4:12), nor any other true God but the God of Israel (Exodus 20:3, Jeremiah 10:10) and other gods are demons (1 Corinthians 10:20, Deuteronomy 32:17, Psalm 106:37). Nor is there any other true “PEACE” except through God’s peace plan based on the New Testament Gospel of salvation by grace and justification through faith (Luke 2:14, Romans 3:17, Romans 5:1, Ephesians 2:14, 2 Thessalonians 3:16, 1 Peter 5:14, 2 Peter 3:14).

Rick Warren however, has teamed up with Tony Blair to push Rick Warren’s own “Global ‘PEACE’ Plan” aligning governments, industries, and religions – all religions (including Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and worshipers of other “gods” which Scripture identifies as demons) to inaugurate Warren’s peace plan contrary to God’s and omits the Gospel of Jesus as the only true “PEACE”.

Warren’s partner in his Christ-less and Gospel-less “peace” plan Tony Blair, converted to Roman Catholicism and as British Prime Minister pushed his “Sexual Orientation Regulation” through Parliament in the UK, making it a prosecutable crime to deny co-equal right of adoption to same-sex couples to bring a baby up as a homosexual or lesbian. After first opposing California’s Proposition 8 same-sex marriage prohibition on film, Warren appeared on Larry King Live before tens of millions of viewers and denied that he ever supported it (although the film clip proves he did) and lied apologetically stating to the homosexual and lesbian community that he did not oppose such things condemned by the New Testament as physically, socially, and spiritually destructive (Romans 1: 27-28). Indeed, Warren and Blair have plenty of friends claiming to be “born again” who have likewise compromised on this and other issues such as Bart Campolo (son of the apostate Tony Campolo) and heretical Emergent Church Guru Brian McLaren whom Warren joined to forward Dan Kimball’s book The Emergent Church which is mere post-Modernism in pseudo-Christian packaging in a counterfeit spirituality mimicking the iconic mysticism of the Dark Ages.

Indeed, McLaren rejects propositional truth as essential to Christianity in contrast to the propositional historicity of the resurrection of Christ being foundational to scriptural Christianity. McLaren’s rejection of hell and his replacement of exegesis with the use of imagination in studying the parables of Jesus is a pure unadulterated theological Gnosticism. Again, enter Rick Warren who co-authors the forward to Kimball’s book that defines this “Emergence” — the apostate church of the paradigm shift where Leonard Sweet’s pseudo-Christianized New Age meets the mainstream.

What is supremely strange is that the Word of God expressly warns us of deceptions such as Rick Warren’s “PEACE” plan in the Last Days (1 Thessalonians 5:3). So in an open and defiant rejection of the clear and unmitigated warnings of Jesus to be alert for the prophetic signs of His return (Matthew 24: 42), Rick Warren erases Acts 1:6 and replaces it with Matthew 24:3 to argue that we should avoid End Time prophecy because Christ said it is not our business (an argument he attempts to justify by his peculiar brand of a trans-locational “cut-and-paste” substitute for exegesis.)

As is plainly published in his book, Mr. Warren’s Purpose Driven agenda not only abandons but argues against the scriptural imperative of repentance in evangelistic Gospel presentations favoring his “seeker friendly” approach where marketing and psychology determine both the message and how it is presented. In Rick Warren’s world it is what people think they need, not what God states they need which defines “need”. His perverted counterfeit of the scriptural Gospel is Robert Schuller and Bill Hybels taken to their natural conclusions and then reinterpreted in light of the marketing psychology of the late unbeliever, the marketing consultant Peter Drucker. But his Inter-Faith and purely social gospel agenda now eclipses evangelism in any form. This is Rick Warren.

One would be very hard pressed indeed to identify any figure whose positions are so acutely antithetical to essential New Testament dogma or a scriptural definition of the Gospel than Rick Warren. As Jesus warned in the Olivet Discourse, “If possible, even the elect would be deceived”. (Matthew 24: 24) Well, the “elect” certainly appear to be deceived.

One should hardly be surprised that the Calvinistic preacher John Piper has jumped into bed with Rick Warren. With his erroneous Replacement Theology, Piper has always been a teacher of error anyway. While we cannot confirm Mr. Piper’s motives, we should rather be surprised if John Piper had not ventured further into error; he was always misled with his reformed nonsense to begin with and has always misled others on various other points, so it is natural he should introduce his church to more error.

There are however, others whom we would have expected to know better since they themselves do not even agree with Rick Warren and in fact fundamentally disagree with much of what Warren represents including his partnership with Kimball and McLaren in promoting “emergence” and who would solidly reject Rick Warren’s dismissal of the importance of eschatological prophecy. Why would doctrinally grounded pastors partner with someone like Rick Warren whose dishonest and backtracking antics on the same-sex marriage issue are plainly wrought in hell? Why would they share platforms with a multi-faith advocate who mutilated the scriptural Gospel they claim to believe in? Why would they ignore their own heritage concerning the importance of studying the return of Christ and share a platform or grant public sanction to someone whose endorsement of the Emergent church is conspicuously of Satan? Why would they share a platform with a virtual New Ager like Leonard Sweet unless it was to debate him? Why this sad, sick compromise? How could a preacher ever endorse a vile specimen of blasphemous heresy like The Shack unless he himself is false?

We do not speak of “guilt by association” (”guilt by association” is not scriptural or Jesus Himself would have been guilty of it), but rather we speak of “guilt by cooperation” with a villain and a deceiver of the very ilk Jesus warned us in His eschatological caveats to beware in the Last Days. In the past we have described this as “riding in Ahab’s chariot” as King Jehoshaphat did. Though a good king and righteous leader himself, he allied himself with a bad one due to political and family pressures and in the ensuing process made himself a target when his misguided actions caused him to become identified with Ahab himself. It is both wrong and dangerous for good leaders to ride in Ahab’s chariot, be it appearing with the money preachers on TBN or standing shoulder to shoulder with them at a conference, church, or rally-type events. It displeases the Lord and sooner or later backfires, not infrequently with devastating costs and destructive ramifications of pressure to continue such unwise relationships in ministry and even to expand them. It is a an ugly enterprise best avoided.

Jesus taught that pastors are shepherds whose task is not only to feed and tend the sheep but protect them from wolves (John 10: 11-13). Why would shepherds who will one day give account to Christ for the welfare of His sheep (1 Peter 5: 1-5) not only fail to protect Christ’s sheep from a scripturally proven “wolf in sheep’s clothing’ (Matthew 7:15) which Jesus called being “a hireling”, but also mislead the sheep into thinking this demonstrable wolf is a fellow shepherd? Why? I know some of these men to be personally good and godly men, so I am left to ponder the painful question – why?

Even more importantly however, what do such sad and at times sickening trends mean for the short- to medium-term future for the Body of Christ? That we live in an age of apostasy as Jesus warned us would come is obvious. Yet why do so many men whom God has blessed and used who themselves at one time warned and preached against these spiritual seductions now compromise with them? Tragically, it has surely become a Jeremiah chapter 12 scenario we once more face.

The Lure of Fame & the Mega-Church & Their Tragic Demise

Mega-churches first surfaced in the aftermath of the Jesus Movement, the revival among the hippie generation that followed the tumultuous 1960’s, the last time a genuine revival (authentic by scriptural and historical standards) occurred in the Western World. Its contemporary counterpart ‘The Charismatic Movement” degenerated into experiential instead of scriptural theology, stereotypically substituting hype for anointing, neo-Gnosticism for exegesis, Mysticism for spirituality, religious emotionalism for inspiration, and often confused what amounted to clairvoyance for the gift of prophecy and gibberish for the actual scriptural gift of tongues. Charismata was distorted into charismania often compromising on fundamental doctrine (and not infrequently the purity of the scriptural Gospel itself). The Charismatic Movement categorically failed to transform the denominations in which it took place in any real long-term way or to have a major impact for Christ on society or the fallen world. Massive churches with the capacity to attract young people became known as “mega-churches”.

They began on the crest of the Jesus Movement pioneered by Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa. While some mainstream Evangelical churches rejected the saved hippies and Moody Bible Institute told them to get a haircut and not have a beard if they wanted to go to Bible college, others like Chuck Smith and Jews For Jesus founder Moishe Rosen saw the potential of a radical contingent of young people saved out of the hippie counter-culture whose numbers and zeal could be transformed into a new generation of Bible-believing Christians. Just as the hippies with their youth and numbers were able to play a pivotal role in driving two crooked presidents out of the White House, that energy and those numbers of demographic Baby Boomers could impact society for Christ. Up to a very clear point it actually did. While many of these “Jesus Freak” sects such as Moe Berg’s Children of God, Pastor Stevens Bible Speaks, and Stuart Traille’s Forever Family degenerated into cults, those with solid pastoral leadership actually gave new badly needed life blood to the Body of Christ. However the manner in which mega-churches began and the manner in which they have ended up are two desperately different things entirely. The list of fundamental differences demonstrating how something that commenced as positive in a scripturally-based manner under the empowerment of the Holy Spirit mutated into a series of “flavor of the month” fad-based spectacles is conspicuous.

* The early mega-churches such as Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and its initial church plants grew by tons of young people actually being saved through evangelism and discipleship. Today most mega-churches grow primarily by transfer growth with people leaving one church for another chasing the latest show in town.

* The early mega-churches largely grew by emphasizing eschatological prophecy and the return of Jesus. Today in Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven agenda end time prophecy is actively discouraged as to be avoided in favor of a social activism which is temporal in focus.

* The original mega-churches grew by preaching an uncompromising scriptural Gospel that saw Christ alone as the Way, the Truth, and the Life where salvation was by grace and justification by faith. Modern mega-churches are Ecumenical, accepting of a social and/or sacramental gospel of religious ritualism from Bill Hybels and Robert Schuller hosting Islamic preachers in their pulpits to Rick Warren’s “Global Peace Plan” stating we can unite with any religion to transform the world by religion and activism instead of by Christ alone.

* A seeker-friendly dilution of the Gospel ignoring the centrality of the New Testament stress on the need for repentance is urged by Rick Warren while compromise on fundamental issues of scriptural standards of morality replace a biblical emphasis on the holiness without which “no man shall see God”. (Hebrews 12:14)

* The original mega-churches grew by biblical discipleship and the exegetical exposition of scripture. Modern mega-churches grow by motivational speaking where pop psychology is put into Christian jargon and hype-artistry is substituted for anointing. Instead of Bibles the Purpose Driven devotees read the corrupted paraphrase The Message wildly deviating from the original Greek and Hebrew in meaning. Christian classics such as Pilgrim’s Progress or authors like A. W. Tozer, F. B. Meyer, and Watchman Nee are discarded in favor of blasphemous heresy such as The Shack. Exposition of God’s Word is replaced by Gnostic spiritualization of scriptural texts pushed by Brian McLaren and New Testament spirituality is literally replaced by seeking light in the Dark Ages with a return to Pre-Reformation monastic Mysticism such as labyrinths, visualization aided by icons, candles, incense, the Lectio Divina urged by imitators of Jesuit founder Ignatius Loyala, and yoga breathing exercises such as suggested by Joyce Hugget. Kundalini Yoga is copied and called “The Toronto Experience”.

* In the early mega-churches growth was celebrated with the worship of God. In the modern mega-churches, as with Hillsong, it is the worship of “worship” that engenders growth oblivious to the fact that when entertainment is used to draw people, entertainment must be used to keep them. Indeed, instead of by way of Bible study, in modern mega-churches many people in fact get their doctrine in this way (usually false doctrine camouflaged by superficial elements of truth).

* The early mega-churches were built on the Rock, not on the programs of men and withstood the test of time; the new generation of mega-churches do not. Let us consider their track undeniable record:
o Jim Bakker’s PTL Club and Heritage USA (the biggest ministry in the world at one time with the third largest theme park in the world and the biggest money preacher) – A SELF-INFLICTED DEATH.

o John Arnett’s Airport Vineyard Church, Toronto – The show is over, a dwindled vestige of its counterfeit revival carnal, freak show self.

o Ken Gott – Sunderland Assemblies of God, the UK clone of Toronto – The show is also over where at one point it degenerated into a handful of leftovers meeting in a rented room at the Roker Hotel.

o John Kilpatrick’s Brownsville Assembly of God, Pensacola, Florida – Following a financial scandal and a huge split, that failed revival is also over with no revival in its wake.

o Paula White’s Church Without Walls, the fastest growing church in the USA in 2008 – Following yet another of her divorces the church caved in on itself leaving a reported $13 million in debt.

o Jim McConnell’s Whitewell Elim, Belfast, Ireland’s mega-church – A massive split following scandals in Romania and teaching the crazy British-Israelite doctrine.

o Todd Bentley and the Straders Lakeland Fiasco – After abandoning his wife and three children and running off with another woman after being prophesied over falsely by Peter Wagner, Bill Johnson, Che Anh, and Rick Joyner while he was involved in heavy adultery, Lakeland died a self-inflicted death. (Now Joyner is trying to bring Bentley and the adulteress he married after divorcing his rightful wife back into a ministry of “financial blessing”.)

o Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral – The Positive Thinking Mecca where psychology displaced the preaching of the cross and inspired its imitators Bill Hybel’s Willow Creek and Rick Warren’s Saddleback is now in debt $55 million with no way out.

WHO WANTS TO BE NEXT???

Even once upon a time doctrinally good mega-churches such as the ministry of the man who was the biggest televangelist in the world, Jimmy Swaggert, has likewise all but died a self-inflicted death in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It is not just mega-churches that were never any good which put themselves at risk, but churches which began well but deviated from God’s Word and lost sight of where Jesus was really at. We must understand that these were seen as the most successful mega-churches in the world at one time that others emulated and imitated, wanting to have a “BIG CHURCH TOO”, but in the wrong way and often for the wrong reasons.

In the quest for this growth we have witnessed pastors who may themselves have began well become obsessed by initial success but not discern spiritually or comprehend theologically what was really happening. They took their eyes off of Jesus and their nose out of the Bible and put it on a false barometer of success and a misinterpretation of divine blessing.

Not only did they ride in Ahab’s chariot appearing on TBN or jumping on any bandwagon coming down the pike from counterfeit revivals in Toronto, to the Purpose Driven lie, to promoting easy growth formulas in the form of books doctrinally incompatible with God’s Word such as The Prayer of Jabez, The God Chasers, and The Shack, but also Ecumenical fast growth gimmicks like Alpha courses that do not really work in the long run because they lack firm scriptural substance.

When Bill Clinton was American president he twice vetoed the congressional ban on partial-birth abortion (dragging a baby out its mother’s womb in a late-term pregnancy with forceps, doing a sub-occipital puncture through its skull, and sucking his or her brains out with a suction catheter while the infant is still alive – a procedure also supported by Barak Obama), Clinton was invited to be keynote speaker at Bill Hybel’s pastoral leadership conference. This was following the Lewinsky scandal (complete with Mr. Clinton vaginally inserting cigars into a troubled young girl the age of his daughter in the Oval Office and lying about it under oath). In Bill Hybel’s estimation, who could be better to coach Evangelical pastors about leadership? Yet 5,000 of them showed up to hear Clinton and ask him questions, but not one of these worthless hypocritical hirelings pretending to be pastors challenged Clinton about partial-birth abortion which will warrant God’s judgment. Fortunately Isaiah was not like that when he challenged King Manasseh over the sacrificial killing of infants even though according to Jewish history it cost him his life. Yet this demonstrates the lengths such pastors will venture in their pursuit of numbers. They forget that God’s Word condemns this chasing numbers at the cost of doing God’s true will calling it “The Second Sin of David” and as with David it results in eventual de-population under the judgment of God.

They call it “zeal for the Lord” but it is really the ambition of men. They call it “building the Kingdom of God”, but it really has become building the empires of men. Motives become mixed and good intentions blind the pursuant to the reality. An untenable compromise comes next but this is always followed by hypocrisy. A bad guy is seen as “good” because he appears to be a model of success and a good guy not subscribing to it is labeled “bad” because he is perceived as an obstacle to the agenda. Then money becomes involved, often due to ambitious and colossal building programs which are only good when they are truly ordained of God and not achieved by compromise with things that God calls wrong. It is a numbers game. It is, once again, “The Second Sin of David”.

My question is again: WHO WANTS TO BE NEXT???

I once did a recording on the subject The Second Sin of David some years ago. Moriel will provide a free copy to any pastor of any active church of any movement or denomination who wants one if they contact one of our branches. (It is free for active pastors).

We are told in 1 Corinthians 10 that the tragic history of Old Testament Israel and its failing were written for our instruction as believers as a caveat that we should not make the same mistakes. This history is especially recorded in the books of Chronicles and Kings. It is amazing how one single generation could change everything for either good or bad.

Toward the end of his life at the close of the 18th Century John Wesley bemoaned that the Methodists with their mighty revival was already declining due to a deficiency in the reading and exposition of Scripture. Wesley asked publicly, “If this is what is happening when I am still alive, what will become of it once I am dead?” Methodism as it had been with its dynamism and power essentially died with him. Yet another revival took place in England called Primitive Methodism which reverted to Wesley’s original beliefs and convictions and refused to follow the mainstream. Over time other Methodist movements such as The Wesleyans and The early Church of The Nazarene (which in more recent times has also begun to lose its way) led by Phineas Bresee continued to follow true Methodism by following the true Jesus on the basis of Scripture.

We now once again approach such a juncture. I have readily defended Chuck Smith publicly from the unjust attacks on him and on his character by Christianity Today magazine, the “Phoenix Preacher” and others. But how can I defend some of those claiming to be Calvary Chapels who no longer by their actions believe or do what Chuck taught?

Much to his credit Chuck Smith always tossed heretics such as Lonnie Frisbee and John Wimber out of Calvary Chapels and more recently Chuck Smith has rightly (and at considerable personal cost) withstood those introducing Emergent Church practices and beliefs into Calvary Chapels. There are indeed many godly men in Calvary Chapels whose ministry I can endorse without hesitation such as Don McClure, Raul and Xavier Reese, Edmund Coronel, Jack Hibbs, Damian Khyle, Lloyd Pulley, Claude Stauffer, Jim King, Dwight Douville, Bill Gallatin, Daryl Skinner, Greg Jones, Ray Bentley, Mike MacIntosh, Rob Yardley, John Higgins and many others from America, to the Far East, to New Zealand, to Britain and Europe. I sanction the ministry of all of them without hesitation. There are also however, others who leave me confused, leave the church of Jesus misguided, and leave themselves on the wrong road often due to “The Second Sin of David”; it is no longer about Jesus but about the numbers or about something having nothing to do with Jesus.

What do I do when Gayle Irwin cover endorses a heretical specimen of blasphemous trash like The Shack authored by a man who says there is no hell? Following an ugly financial scandal in the newspapers, what do I do when Skip Heitzig invites a teacher of New Age in pseudo-Christian packaging from an extreme axis who most would define as “Emergence’ like Leonard Sweet with worship by a Roman Catholic who adheres to the false Christianity of Rome? Chuck Smith made it clear that he does not want this Emergent influence in Calvary Chapel and he is correct. What do I do when good men of God like Roger Oakland and Paul Smith are marginalized by theocratic politics?

As Wesley warned, this is what happened to Methodism in the 18th Century. As J. C. Rhyle warned, this is what happened to the Anglicans in the 19th Century. As David Powell warned this is what happened to the Assemblies of God in the 20th Century. And this is now what is facing Calvary Chapels a full decade into the 21st Century. Men like Spurgeon and Martin Lloyd Jones warned what would become of the church in Great Britain if it did no repent. They were right and were proven to be right. At one time A. W. Tozer, Dave Hunt, Larry Thomas and David Wilkerson warned America along the same lines and they too were proven right. Jeremiahs are always proven to be right (2 Chronicles 36:12, 16); they are vindicated by both God and history and always will be.

When John Wesley asked the question he was in his nineties. Today David Wilkerson, Tim La Haye, Chuck Smith, and Dave Hunt are all in their eighties. May God bless each of them.

In Britain after Martin Lloyd Jones, Campbell Morgan, and F. F. Bruce passed away there were no more earthly leaders in the Body of Christ in Britain anymore, only theocrats and opportunists whose detrimental activities and false doctrines were punctuated by the occasional voices of a few who dare to speak out against them such as Clifford Hill, David Noakes, Stuart Dool, Alec Passmore and Steven Gardner. Now America seems to be going the same way. Will there be another generation of scripturally grounded leaders for God to raise up or will America go down the same sad path as Britain in becoming post-Christian/neo-Pagan with a spiritually and doctrinally dilapidated church? Will we see a modern equivalent of Free Methodism to rekindle the flame of the last revival now being forgotten and its tenets abandoned? God knows and time will tell, but it will not be a long time. We may be absolutely certain that this question will be answered and decided within the not too distant future.

Meanwhile however, as “The Second Sin of David” marches on unobstructed we are compelled by this uncomfortable reality to respectfully once more ask the question: WHO WANTS TO BE NEXT???

Jacob Prasch
Moriel Ministries

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prairiewoman
April 25th, 2010, 02:21 PM
:agree: WOW, that was tremendous Cindy - thanks for posting it!

I have a question though - WHY do people DESIRE to believe this ? :shrug:

discerner
April 26th, 2010, 08:52 PM
I didn't read everything but on another board I go to there was debate going on in the Calvary Chapel forum. Some were adamantly defending CC while a few were pointing out similar things about them allowing certain people to come in. The ones for CC were really angry that the validity of CC was being questioned. Are the doctrines of CC in error or is it just that they're going by the wayside getting involve with New Age adherents?

Christian-Commando
April 27th, 2010, 12:30 AM
Hi all. Here is my two cents worth-

Paul was lead by the Spirit to correct particular "first" major churches they'd begun in the Apostlic days, for allowing false doctrines/practices to start infiltrating them again.

One of those groups Paul named was the "Nicolatenes", of which most do not realize, the "Sanhedrin", major "religious" governing body back in Christ's day, had some of them as Leaders, as well as several other groups I can't recall off hand right now.

As Paul instructed those churches back then to end such things, so also should we, or at least those in some Church knowing such is to enter thier Church doors.

There is enough worldly and other false religious beliefs infiltrating the "Body" as it is and this needs to be dealt with on a more major scale soon.

God Bless!!

Cindy
May 7th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you discerner. Here's the latest about this:

Questions Arise: Is New Age Sympathizer Leonard Sweet Speaking at Calvary Chapel Albuquerque or Not?

Apprising Ministries (http://apprising.org/) has been among those covering what appears now to be a still developing story concerning Emergent Church (http://apprising.org/category/emergent-church/) theologian Leornard Sweet (http://apprising.org/2009/07/24/emergence-christianity-quantum-shift-to-panentheism/), a close friend of Emergent Church (http://apprising.org/category/emergent-church/) guru Brian McLaren (http://apprising.org/category/brian-mclaren/), and Calvary of Albuquerque (http://www.calvaryabq.org/ministries.asp) (CoA) where Skip Heitzig (http://www.calvaryabq.org/churchinfo_pastoralstaff.asp) is Senior Pastor. It begins when the respected online apologetics and discernment ministry Lighthouse Trails Research (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/) ran New Age Sympathizer Leonard Sweet To Speak at Pastor Skip Heitzig’s Calvary Chapel Church (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4240), which I then linked to here at AM as well. Then I was contacted by Nelson Walker, who is a pastor at CoA.


You may remember in Emerging Church Theologian Leonard Sweet Not To Speak At Pastor Skip Heitzig’s Calvary Chapel (http://apprising.org/2010/04/28/emerging-church-theologian-leonard-sweet-not-to-speak-at-pastor-skip-heitzig%e2%80%99s-calvary-chapel/) I shared that Walker told me this was not a CoA event; they happen to have “beautiful facilities,” which will be used for this National Worship Leader Conference, and that Leonard Sweet has been asked “not to speak though he will be in attendance.”
Now however, a trusted associate has told me that they personally spoke Thursday, April 29 with Suzie Stablein, who is:the Director of Training & Development for Worship Leader magazine, The Worshiper and Song DISCovery. Suzie is responsible for the training arm of the organization with a goal to provide quality training and resources for worship leaders, songwriters, artists, pastors, and all of our customers world-wide.
With over 15 years invested in church training, as the former conference program manager at Purpose Driven Ministries, and having launched the Worship Leader Workshops through Maranatha Music,… (Online source (http://www.nationalworshipleaderconference.com/about))
Stablein told my associate that a decision whether or not have Sweet speak at CoA has not yet been made and she felt it was “premature” for pastor Walker to have said Sweet will definitely not be speaking at CoA. In addition, I’ve just spoken myself with Lighthouse Trails Research (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/) (LTR); I was informed that also on Thursday, April 29 they were contacted by David Bow, another pastor at CoA.
Bow told LTR, at that time, he was under the impression that Sweet was going to be speaking at CoA. So you may wish to stay tuned as we attempt to bring this rather fuzzy picture into focus. Click here for more information and source. (http://apprising.org/2010/05/01/is-emerging-church-theologian-leonard-sweet-speaking-at-calvary-chapel-of-albuquerque-or-not/)


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http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4420


Calvary Chapel Albuquerque States: Leonard Sweet Will Not Be Speaking at Conference – Lighthouse Trails Calls For Answers

This is an update regarding the Lighthouse Trails report that New Age sympathizer Leonard Sweet is scheduled to speak at Calvary Chapel Albuquerque for the National Worship Leader Conference this June. Conflicting reports are occurring as to whether Sweet’s speaking engagement has been cancelled. Please refer to our recent posting, Questions Arise: Is New Age Sympathizer Leonard Sweet Speaking at Calvary Chapel Albuquerque or Not? where we write on some of these conflicting reports.

A number of Lighthouse Trails’ readers contacted us over the last couple days sending us copies of an email they each received from an undisclosed personnel at Calvary Chapel Albuquerque. The form letter states:

Thank you for contacting us here at The Connection and thanks for writing to Pastor Skip. We always love to hear from you. The conference is not a Calvary conference. The conference is being put on by Worship Leader Magazine using our facility – just like CAPE, Home school graduation, funerals, etc. Therefore, Leonard Sweet is not speaking at “Skip’s Church”. [LT: Heitzig is one of the speakers at this event.] He is part of a conference using Calvary’s facilities. Leonard Sweet will attend the conference but WILL NOT BE SPEAKING. It is our prayer that God will continue to reveal Himself to you through His Word as you seek to know Him.

Love in Christ,
Connection Communications

Because the National Worship Leader Conference website still maintains that Leonard Sweet will indeed be speaking at Calvary Chapel Albuquerque, an official public notice from CCA stating that Leonard Sweet will not be speaking there could help clear up the present confusion. Just as important, a statement explaining to the body of Christ why they have decided to remove him from the platform would be important. In a day and age when so many Christian leaders are sending out mixed messages to the Church regarding spiritual deception, those wanting to maintain biblical integrity need to be forthright and clear in what they believe and stand for. And regardless of what denomination or movement this confusion is occurring in, those particular leaders do have a biblical obligation to the entire body of Jesus Christ. This is not Lighthouse Trails saying this – this is what the Bible requests of leaders and pastors.

In a recent similar situation, when Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa invited emerging author Mike Erre (Rock Harbor) to speak to thousands of youth at the Movement 2009 event, Lighthouse Trails reported (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=814)on this matter. Then at the beginning of that event, a Calvary Chapel pastor told these youth, referring partly to Lighthouse Trails, that the “haters” tried to stop them (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=959)but they didn’t. Lighthouse Trails rejects this effort by some to villainize us because we are reporting on various public occurrences within the church that are affecting thousands and in some cases (such as Purpose Driven) millions. We have attempted these past eight years to maintain honesty and accuracy as well as uphold biblical integrity in how we report and write. It is wrong for Christian leaders and other figures to try to make Lighthouse Trails the issue when in fact their doctrines and public teachings should be the focus. It appears that many of these leaders do not like to be corrected or challenged. The fact that they often revert to vitriolic and untrue statements to sway public opinion is indication that something is amiss. Rather than becoming angry at Lighthouse Trails and other similar ministries, they should be able to scripturally or factually refute our protests, and thus neutralize our concerns. It is as simple as that.


Lighthouse Trails is not engaging in this work out of a sense of spiritual crankiness. We’ve documented in our books and articles that there are very clear and profound ramifications to this controversy – - the spiritual health of millions in the years to come is at stake. Lighthouse Trails is not merely picking on Leonard Sweet just for the sake of someone to bully. Sweet has made the clear statement that mysticism (the vehicle through which the present falling away is occurring) was once on the side lines of the Christian life and now is situated at the center; he supports the idea that the Christian of the future will be a mystic, or he or she won’t be a Christian at all.1 When you incorporate the fact that Leonard Sweet (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/leonardsweet.htm)sees as “New Light heroes,” New Age mystics such as Matthew Fox, there are legitimate reasons for biblical Christians to raise concerns.

Notes:
1. Read our articles on Sweet, including the one below for documentation of these statements. Documentation on Sweet can also be found in A Time of Departing (http://www.lighthousetrails.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LTP&Product_Code=ATOD&Category_Code=BS)and A “Wonderful” Deception (http://www.lighthousetrails.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LTP&Product_Code=AWD&Category_Code=BS).

Related:
Rick Warren and Leonard Sweet Riding the “Tides of Change” on the Heels of Mysticism (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4057)

(http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4057)
Qu0tes by Sweet:
Mysticism, once cast to the sidelines of the Christian tradition, is now situated in postmodernist culture near the center.… In the words of one of the greatest theologians of the twentieth century, Jesuit philosopher of religion/dogmatist Karl Rahner, “The Christian of tomorrow will be a mystic, one who has experienced something, or he will be nothing.” [Mysticism] is metaphysics arrived at through mindbody experiences. Mysticism begins in experience; it ends in theology. (from p. 160, A Time of Departing, quoting Sweet from Quantum Spirituality, p. 76
For a collection of quotes by Leonard Sweet, see Sandy Simpson’s website (http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/leonardsweetquotes.html).


Posted with permission:

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4462

Cindy
May 14th, 2010, 11:49 AM
http://www.fresh-hope.com/forums/images/icons/update1.gif Letter to the Editor: National Worship Conference & Calvary Chapel Not a Good Mix

To Lighthouse Trails:

I have been reading your posts regarding C.C. Albuquerque and Leonard Sweet.

I thought you might like the following information so that we might all be able to determine the truth regarding this matter.

According to Calvary Chapel Albuquerque’s website on their upcoming events page, Dr. Leonard Sweet will in fact be speaking. If you scroll down to about the 17th event … National Worship Conference … there is an audio promo posted which states that Mr. Sweet will in fact be speaking:
http://www.calvaryabq.org/events.asp

I would also like to point out that Leonard Sweet while blatantly New Age, is not the only speaker in question. There are many other people in this upcoming conference who are a part of Saddleback and Willow Creek. Both pastors of both churches, Rick Warren* and Bill Hybels respectively, are graduates of the Robert Schuller School of Church Leadership, and both pastors also endorse contemplative prayer, a ‘Christianized’ brand of Hindu meditation practices. [see "Saddleback IS a contemplative church" (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletter061608.htm#LETTER.BLOCK24) and also "No Repentance from Willow Creek – Only a Mystical Paradigm Shift (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=2342)"]

Others, such as Mr. Maher routinely minister in Roman Catholic fellowships (is he a Roman Catholic, or an ex-Roman Catholic and a Christian simply reaching out to these souls?): Matt Maher – is still involved in local church ministry at St. Timothy Catholic Community, as well as helping out with the young adult ministry at All Saints Newman Center on the campus of Arizona State University.

Buddy Owens is Pastor of Spiritual Growth at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California.
Scott Dyer is the Pastor of Worship and Arts at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship, in the northern suburbs of Dallas, TX, where he has served since February of 2004. Prior to coming to Bent Tree, Scott spent 14 years on the staff of Willow Creek Community Church and the Willow Creek Association.

Stan Endicott (http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/nph/contributor.jsp?contrib=3368) is Executive Worship Pastor at Mariners Church in Irvine, Calif., a large church known for progressive and culturally compelling approaches to worship, communications and ministry. He also consults with churches around the country and continues to work with established and up-and-coming recording artists in music production. Stan is a mainstay at Arts and Worship conferences at Willow Creek Community Church in Barrington, Ill., and at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., where he also directs the worship choir.

Curt Coffield (http://www.reslife.org/ministries/worship-creative-arts) – Curt is committed to helping others worship. He is the Pastor at Sewickley Valley North Way Christian Community in Pennsylvania. Formerly, Curt served as Worship and Teaching Pastor at Resurrection Life Church in Grandville, Michigan; as Worship Pastor at Shoreline Community Church in Monterey, California; and as Worship Director at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois. As a member of Integrity Music’s band PK7, Curt led worship for Promise Keeper events in arenas around the country for several years.

Tony Guerrero (http://www.rickwarrennews.com/081104_christmas.htm) is currently serving as the Director of Creative Arts at Saddleback Church, where he leads a mostly volunteer group of hundreds of musicians, singers, and performers in a variety of arenas.

Randy Swanson (http://www.nationalworshipleaderconference.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=speakers) has been involved in Creative Arts ministry for over 30 years. He has a degree in music from UCLA and a JD from Western States University. He was admitted to practice law in California in 1983. As an accomplished trumpet artist he performs in churches and orchestras on a regular basis. He served as the Executive Director for the Robert Schuller (http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/robertschuller.htm) Performing Arts Center.

Information above taken from the official web site, posted below
http://www.nationalworshipleaderconference.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=speakers

I am personally dismayed that CC continues to align themselves with those who are apart of the EMERGENT Church.

Signed by a Lighthouse Trails reader

posted with permission
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4487

SAGA OF LEONARD SWEET SCHEDULED TO SPEAK ALONG WITH SKIP HEITZIG AT CALVARY OF ALBUQUERQUE

Yesterday in Leonard Sweet Tweet On How To Find God here at Apprising Ministries I told you again that Leonard Sweet is leading theologian in the neo-liberal cult of the Emerging Church.

Sweet hides under the cover as Leadership Network as evangelical; and example of which could be found in Skip Heitzig Scheduled To Speak Along With Leonard Sweet At Calvary Of Albuquerque.

A quick aside, as you can see from the 5/8/10 screen shot of the National Worship Leader Conference Speakers page Sweet was still to be at “the NWLC Southwest.”

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww190/FreshHope_photos/NWLC-1.jpg

However, as you can see below, as of today 5/13/10 the “Southwest” has been removed:

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww190/FreshHope_photos/sWEET1.jpg

The issue to be concerned with would be why someone like Leonard Sweet should be at a “worship leader” conference at any mainstream evangelical church in the first place. Again, he is good friends with Emergent Church guru Brian McLaren, who’s as much an evangelical as I am a Zen Buddhist.

Sweet himself also adheres to the newer postmodern form of big tent Progressive Christianity that McLaren began laying out more systematically in his latest book A New Kind of Christianity. As I told you yesterday, you’d best wake up to the fact that these are neo-Gnostics deeply steeped in of corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM), which is perpetrated as so-called Spiritual Formation (SF) by Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster along with his spiritual twin and SBC minister Dallas Willard.

And you’ll see in David Spangler, Leonard Sweet, And Quantum Spirituality just how far out Sweet himself is. I showed you that yesterday he tweeted:

http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww190/FreshHope_photos/Sweet.jpg

(Online source (http://twitter.com/lensweet/status/13862583717))

You should recognize this is not Christian theology at all; however, it is right in lockstep with the heretical teaching of some “divine spark within all mankind” of the Eastern mysticism at the root of the Emerging Church 2.0 and its psuedo-Christian religion they call Emergence Christianity.

With all this in mind I’m pleased to point you again to Leonard Sweet Quotes by Sandy Simpson of the fine online apologetics and discernment ministry Deception in the Church. He tells us:

This is a page containing a number of quotes proving Leonard Sweet, probably the leading spokesman promoting Emergent Church, is a false teacher. I will comment in blue about each quote. The issue of Sweet being invited into many churches and Christian universities to speak has become even direr as recently he was invited to speak at a Calvary Chapel conference. (Online source (http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/leonardsweetquotes.html))

Simpson’s important post where he compiled copious quotes from Leonard Sweet’s work can be read in its entirety right here (http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/leonardsweetquotes.html).

posted with permission
http://apprising.org/2010/05/13/saga-of-leonard-sweet-scheduled-to-speak-along-with-skip-heitzig-at-calvary-of-albuquerque/

Brad
May 14th, 2010, 11:52 AM
:no: :no: :no:

Lauren
May 14th, 2010, 12:00 PM
That's very interesting to read. I know very little about Calvary Chapel, never heard of them until I came to FH (which doesn't mean much given the fact that I've been out of the "church" loop for several years), but the articles about the whole situation with Leonard Sweet made me think that this was an isolated problem rather than a pattern. It's good to know to keep an eye on them if I happen to find one in my search here for a local church.

revtami
May 14th, 2010, 12:29 PM
Our local CC here in Aberdeen doesn't seem to be involved in any of this, at least not yet, and I sure hope they stay that way. It's the only church in town (Aberdeen and Hoquiam are butt up against each other) I can come anywhere close to wanting to attend because I know that they do at least teach from the Bible. Even though I'm not a member and don't attend services there I would certainly be very sad and disappointed to see them go the way of the emerging, mystic, new age church. No wonder people are so confused.

Cindy
May 16th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Thankfully this hasn't spread to all the CC churches yet and hopefully there will be some that will stand firm. Good churches are getting harder and harder to find.

Cindy
May 24th, 2010, 08:28 AM
Leonard Sweet and Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque Cancellation

A number of websites reacted unfavorably to an advertised conference scheduled to take place at the Calvary Chapel in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA where Skip Heitzig is pastor. Moriel also posted these reports after being contacted by various Calvary Chapel pastors and people, mainly in the USA. Mr. Sweet is by no scriptural standard a Christian, but by every reasonable standard a New Age mystic and a pure Gnostic. It was therefore with some delight we are informed from the USA that the event has been cancelled.

We believe pastor Heitzig made the correct decision. It may be that he and his staff were not fully informed about the nature of Mr. Sweet’s heretical beliefs at the time he agreed to host the conference. We are aware that multiple Calvary Chapel pastors contacted Pastor Heitzig expressing their own concerns, but in this regard we cannot comment further. Plainly however, it was not Skip Heitzig who was the villain. Mr. Sweet on the other hand propounds views nothing short of apostate which many would hold to be of demonic inspiration. Our own fear of course is that such an event featuring Mr. Sweet would have damaged the reputation of Calvary Chapel.

In light of these events we have removed our own report and we urge the various other ministries and websites to remove their own as well. None of us are immune from mistakes and in today’s world they can be very easy to make. We applaud Skip Heitzig’s actions and salute the godly integrity of his decision to cancel the event. We trust other websites and electronic newsletters will drop the matter quickly and consider it a closed affair.

posted with permission
http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/usa/leonard-sweet-and-calvary-chapel-albuquerque-cancellation

Cindy
May 25th, 2010, 10:36 AM
Leonard Sweet and Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque Cancellation

A number of websites reacted unfavorably to an advertised conference scheduled to take place at the Calvary Chapel in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA where Skip Heitzig is pastor. Moriel also posted these reports after being contacted by various Calvary Chapel pastors and people, mainly in the USA. Mr. Sweet is by no scriptural standard a Christian, but by every reasonable standard a New Age mystic and a pure Gnostic. It was therefore with some delight we are informed from the USA that the event has been cancelled.

We believe pastor Heitzig made the correct decision. It may be that he and his staff were not fully informed about the nature of Mr. Sweet’s heretical beliefs at the time he agreed to host the conference. We are aware that multiple Calvary Chapel pastors contacted Pastor Heitzig expressing their own concerns, but in this regard we cannot comment further. Plainly however, it was not Skip Heitzig who was the villain. Mr. Sweet on the other hand propounds views nothing short of apostate which many would hold to be of demonic inspiration. Our own fear of course is that such an event featuring Mr. Sweet would have damaged the reputation of Calvary Chapel.

In light of these events we have removed our own report and we urge the various other ministries and websites to remove their own as well. None of us are immune from mistakes and in today’s world they can be very easy to make. We applaud Skip Heitzig’s actions and salute the godly integrity of his decision to cancel the event. We trust other websites and electronic newsletters will drop the matter quickly and consider it a closed affair.

posted with permission
http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/usa/leonard-sweet-and-calvary-chapel-albuquerque-cancellation

:roll: The following letter shows how some people seem to like to do nothing more then attack others who are doing the job God sent them to do:
Response to Bill Hughes (http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/response-to-bill-hughes)

Note: The following message was received in regard to the Moriel Ministries article “Leonard Sweet and Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque Cancellation (http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/usa/leonard-sweet-and-calvary-chapel-albuquerque-cancellation)“. Jacob’s response is provided afterward.
Hello Jacob,
This is a good start but how widely will this recantation be distributed and spread?
Is this just for the three of us, or will all of the Moriel followers be issued a statement letting them know that the information they took as the truth was a lie?
Is following websites and then slandering ministries and individuals based on lies and misinformation found there a Godly way of conduct?
Did you ever speak to Skip according to the Biblical mandate, or did you just launch out with your own misinformation, which others then read and ran with?
Is Jacob Prasch trustworthy as a model of godliness using this particular case, for others to follow or depend on?
Is Jacob a fit “judge” of Calvary Chapel, Chuck Smith, or Skip Heitzig, and the others mentioned, and if so, what part of Calvary Chapel is he a part of, who does he speak to, and where does he get his information other than the internet?
This is troubling to me as I don’t think Jacob has followed the Bible, cares about any damage caused other than the possible loss of venues to speak and sell books at, and I don’t read repentance in this.
Since that’s what he has demanded of so many others, why don’t I see that here? Jacob, is it truly a “closed affair” to everyone you’ve named or implicated?
Bottom line, should we host Jacob Prasch?
Can we trust him to stick to Biblical teaching which he does so well, or will he feel he needs to take the liberty to speak out about other men or ministries?
Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of false prophets, teachers, and ministries, but we teach the Bible and lift up Jesus Christ at Calvary Chapel.
I did not invite Jacob to talk about what isn’t true, but to teach the TRUTH.
What can be expected from you in our pulpits Jacob?
Chuck Smith is blind copied into this FYI – and to be above board.

I look forward to hearing from you,
Brian Hughes
(Rom 8:34 (http://bible.logos.com/passage/nasb/Rom%208.34)) Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


http://www.calvarychapel.org.nz/
Jacob Responds:

Hello Brian
Out of Christian courtesy I shall respond to your attacks presented in the form of questions.


No , it is not a recantation (except by Skip). The facts reported on multiple websites (including ours ) were true at the time reported. The only one named in a condescending manner was Leonard Sweet. The published material and video is well established. He is a New Age Gnostic.
Our retraction was in response to the wise actions of Skip Heitzig in canceling Sweet as a speaker. It is published both on our website and in our BE ALERT (http://morielbealertblog.blogspot.com/) electronic newsletter and is not limited to just 2 or 3 people. We average millions of hits. We cannot speak for the various websites independent of ourselves who likewise reacted to Mr. Sweet coming to speak at a Calvary Chapel but as soon as Mr. Sweet was canceled we publicly set things to right in high profile.
I & Moriel publicly defended Chuck Smith from attacks by Christianity Today, and The Phoenix Preacher and would do so again. I am confused by the nature of your comments. Chuck Smith was right and we said so.
We also firmly supported Chuck Smith’s statements contra the Emergent Church and would do so again despite the criticism we received from Emergent types for doing so. Chuck Smith was right and we said so.
The scandal surrounding the financial issues of San Juan Capistrano when former Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque members became publicly indignant was widely reported in the secular press. It had nothing to do with us. At the time, we declined to mention it. It was not our affair and did not involve doctrine as such. Do not ask me to give account what is published in the LA Times or the newspaper in New Mexico. It had nothing to do with me.
Matthew 18 is about going to a brother in regard to personal sin against you, not doctrine. There was never any accusation of personal sin concerning Skip Heitzig by us . In 1 Timothy however, Paul directed those teaching false doctrine and misleading the church like Mr. Sweet to be challenged openly (as Chuck Smith rightly did with Lonnie Frisbee, John Wimber, etc.).IF YOU ARE COING TO QUOTE BIBLICAL DOCTRINE AT ME MR. BRIAN HUGHES I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST YOU TRY READING IT FIRST. The arrogance of your tone is not becoming a pastor and neither frankly is your evident inability to rightly dividing Scripture.
Finally, it is not my policy to ever speak publicly on a controversial issue from the pulpit of another unless requested by the pastor or event organizers to do so. When for instance I was a speaker at the Calvary Chapel Midwest Conference event with Bill Galatin, Dwight Deauville, John Higgins and other senior Calvary Chapel figures and joined with T. A. Mc Mahon, Joe Farah , David Hocking , Chuck Gerrard and others in denouncing Chuck Missler’s book on “Protestant Purgatory”, it was not my event. And although I agreed with the Dave Hunt/T. A. McMahon statement and with those Calvary pastors about the book, it was not something I myself addressed. I declined to do so not because Chuck Missler is a friend (he remains so despite my inability to endorse his book ), but because it was not my venue or place to do so. I simply do not think it appropriate to take those kinds of liberties so we do not do it.

When I was last due in New Zealand I did not accept one invitation in order to accept an invitation to come to your church in Auckland, which in the past we recommended because it was a Calvary Chapel associated with Chuck Missler whose ministry we like. On very short notice after it was already advertized you notified our New Zealand branch it was canceled for some reason unclear to us after it was too late for us to properly re-advertise an alternative engagement. Had you not invited us, no problem. But to invite us and on short notice cancel the invitation after the event was advertised was frankly rude. Now to misquote and mis-apply Scripture to me falsely, telling other pastors that only 2 or 3 will see our reaction to Skip Heitzig’s cancellation of Mr. Sweet when it is web-posted and circulated globally by electronic email bulletin, is dishonest. Moreover, what was posted by us was entirely true when posted and you call it a lie. Brian if you are not careful you could be misconstrued as a liar. I do not think you are, but I do question your grasp of God’s Word and frankly your spiritual and emotional stability.


Additionally, propagating a lie is of course a moral charge, hence it appears to be yourself who has violated the instructions of Jesus in Matthew 18. I sincerely think you need to consider a sabbatical to get some pastoral help from one of the Calvary Chapel pastors in the USA older in the Lord. But that is only my opinion. Do as you wish, but I think you are losing it.
Respectfully In Jesus,
Jacob Prasch
Moriel Ministries
Philippians 1:6 (http://bible.logos.com/passage/nasb/Philippians%201.6)

Posted with permission:

http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/response-to-bill-hughes