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Israel Has A Kosher Red Heifer

They just annouced this on Israel National Radio:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/2001

Go to the Part 2 Link, and in the last quarter of the second part they finally mention the red heifer, the rabbi is mentioned as the top rabbi on this red heifer teaching, but he states that Israel has a KOSHER red heifer right now, but they're keeping it quiet.

This is HUGE folks. Remember that the news is already out there that they have the sacrifical altar built and they intend on making a sacrifice for Passover. Make sure you have enough oil and your wicks are trimmed, I hear the footsteps of the bridegroom! Maranatha!!



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Wow! That is BIG news! I found this about it too:

The Tenth Halachically Kosher Red Heifer

Tuesday, March 02, 2010

The sages of Judaism taught that there have been only 9 kosher red heifers at the correct times in history. There is now at least one kosher red heifer in Israel. One halachically kosher red heifer is required for the building of the Third Temple. If one heifer is still certified as kosher when the Third Temple is to be built, it will be the tenth kosher red heifer of that appointed time.

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Thanks, those are really good articles.
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For those who don't understand what this is about or why it's so important, Israel needs this red Heifer in order to dedicate the new Temple when it's built.

The Tenth Red Heifer

From Moses to the Second Temple: Only Nine Red Heifers


The Mishna teaches that up until the destruction of the Second Temple, ashes had been prepared from a total of only nine red heifers. The very first red heifer was processed by Moses himself - as the verse states, "... have them bring you a red heifer." The second was done by the prophet Ezra in the days of the First Temple, and during the entire era of the Second Temple only seven more heifers were used for ashes. This was enough to provide for the nation's needs for purification throughout all those years.

The names of all the High Priests who prepared those seven heifers during Second Temple times are recorded by the Mishna: Simon the Just and Yochanan each made two; El'yhoeini ben Hakof, Chanamel HaMitzri and Yishmael ben Pi'avi processed one heifer each. Thus, from the time that Moses received the commandment of the red heifer from the Holy One, blessed be He, until the destruction of the Second Temple, purifying ashes had been produced by the hands of these great leaders from a total of nine red heifers.

The Tenth Red Heifer Will be Prepared by the Messiah

In recounting this historical record in his commentary to the Mishna, the great Maimonides ends with the enigmatic statement: "... and the tenth red heifer will be accomplished by the king, the Messiah; may he be revealed speedily, Amen, May it be God's will."

With this amazing statement, Maimonides recounts an ancient tradition - that the tenth red heifer is associated with the Messianic era. Does this perhaps mean that the appearance of a red heifer in these waning end times is an indication, a forerunner of the appearance of the Messiah himself, who will officiate at its preparation?

If there has been no red heifer for the past 2,000 years, perhaps it is because the time was not right; Israel was far from being ready. But now... what could it mean for the times we live in, to have the means for purification so close at hand? With the words of Maimonides in mind, we cannot help but wonder and pray: If there are now red heifers... is ours the era that will need them?

On this note, it is fitting that we pay particular attention to a Midrashic teaching:

Each day in the Holy Temple, the Levites sang a special daily song. The order of the daily songs have a deep significance, and there is a mystical connection which each song had for the particular day it was sung. The Oral Tradition has preserved the listing of the Levitical songs that were sung each day in the Holy Temple, and various commentators and sages have explained some of the connections which can be seen between these songs and the days of the week..

According to tradition, the Second Temple, like the First, was destroyed at the conclusion of Shabbat - on a Saturday night. Both Josephus and the Midrashic writings describe how even though the flames of destruction raged all around, and the blood of the slain flowed through the Temple, the priests nevertheless continued to serve atop the altar, and the levites did not cease to sing, right up until the very end.

Yet despite the fact that the actual destruction of the Holy Temple took place on a Saturday night, the Midrash records that at those moments the Levites sang the song for Wednesday - "O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongs; O God, to whom vengeance belongs, shine forth!" Why did they not sing the song for that day of the week, which was Saturday?

Perhaps the levites were addressing their song to the destruction itself, and consoling Israel by reminding her that God has sworn vengeance against His enemies. In this context perhaps their song was even meant to "remind" God to keep His word, and to "shine forth" at the proper time, to manifest Himself in the garb of Divine vengeance.

But we know that there is a close relationship between each day of the week and its respective song. We have seen something of the great insight and understanding which the sages of Israel possess. It is possible that in our own generation, we can shed new light on this perplexing question... based on our own contemporary knowledge, and the wisdom and experience that we have acquired from hindsight in our own times. For although the sages of yore were great and inspired, we in our own generation, are privy to new understanding to which those great men had no access; in short, we have new evidence.

For on that fateful evening of destruction, it is true that the priests and levites consoled each other and all of Israel with the knowledge that God will avenge His honor; perhaps their song summarized the entire epoch. It is certainly possible that they chose to remind the Holy One of his own vow, as well.

But while all of these explanations are acceptable, it is also quite possible that as the Levites stood atop the platform in that place of sublime inspiration and holiness for the last time, all of a moment they received the most profound flash of prophetic revelation...

And they prophesied, they saw with perfect clarity of vision, that although the terrible destruction now loomed all around them on this Saturday evening, the continuation of their service would most certainly come about as well. The day would come when the Holy Temple would be rebuilt. Though it may be far off in the distance, it would certainly transpire, for it is a Divine promise...

At that moment they could see that it would truly come to be. The rebuilding would happen, even if it happens very slowly, and in stages, one step at a time. For like the morning dawn, "such is the way of Israel's redemption. In the beginning, it progresses very slowly... but as it continues, it grows brighter and brighter."

So too, the Levites perceived that the long process of Israel's redemption, hinging on the rebuilding of the Holy Temple, would begin again on a Wednesday... thus they sang the song of Wednesday, for they sang not of destruction, or revenge, but of promise continuation, renewal and rebirth:

The Levites saw that Jerusalem and the Temple Mount would stand desolate for nearly two milenia... but they would be regathered by Israel once again on a Wednesday: Wednesday, June 7th, 1967 was the day they saw. This day could be considered the first step towards the rebuilding of the Holy Temple. For this day marked a turning point in Jewish history, and began a new era, which progresses in our own time, and moves towards the great destiny of the Jewish people, to be a light to the nations and a people who walk with God in their midst.


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Numbers 19:1-10 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: “This is a requirement of the law that the Lord has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke. Give it to Eleazar the priest; it is to be taken outside the camp and slaughtered in his presence. Then Eleazar the priest is to take some of its blood on his finger and sprinkle it seven times toward the front of the Tent of Meeting. While he watches, the heifer is to be burned—its hide, flesh, blood and offal. The priest is to take some cedar wood, hyssop and scarlet wool and throw them onto the burning heifer. After that, the priest must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water. He may then come into the camp, but he will be ceremonially unclean till evening. The man who burns it must also wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he too will be unclean till evening. “A man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and put them in a ceremonially clean place outside the camp. They shall be kept by the Israelite community for use in the water of cleansing; it is for purification from sin. The man who gathers up the ashes of the heifer must also wash his clothes, and he too will be unclean till evening. This will be a lasting ordinance both for the Israelites and for the aliens living among them.
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Learning and discerning the Word should always preceed events like this news report present.

What does the Bible say about the conditions necessary for Temple building? Are there precondtions or templates of preconditions applicable to this age for building a Temple in Jerusalem? Are not the same enemies which beset King David, and his prophet seer Aspah (writer of the prophetic Psalm 83) present today in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, the West Bank, Gaza, Egypt and Saudi Arabia? Are these not THE SAME enemies on every side of Israel which has come and is still coming back into the land from global exile? Asaph is very specific in naming these enemies and there's a key prophetic reason for it.

In a word, YES, to all of the above.

Israel must be victorious against all of her enemies. This is why King David was forbidden by God to build a Temple, he instead was permitted to build only a Tabernacle for the Lord.

It was David's son, Solomon, who finally was allowed by God to build the Temple because of the conditions which were met when he was king of Israel.

Let's look to Scripture for the answer to this, for the Lord will provide everything else required in due course for the Temple and its purification rites.

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1 Kings 5

Solomon Prepares to Build the Temple

1 Now Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants to Solomon, because he heard that they had anointed him king in place of his father, for Hiram had always loved David.
2 Then Solomon sent to Hiram, saying:

3 You know how my father David could not build a house for the name of the LORD his God because of the wars which were fought against him on every side, until the LORD put his foes under the soles of his feet.
4 But now the LORD my God has given me rest on every side; there is neither adversary nor evil occurrence.
5 And behold, I propose to build a house for the name of the LORD my God, as the LORD spoke to my father David, saying, “Your son, whom I will set on your throne in your place, he shall build the house for My name.”
6 Now therefore, command that they cut down cedars for me from Lebanon; and my servants will be with your servants, and I will pay you wages for your servants according to whatever you say. For you know there is none among us who has skill to cut timber like the Sidonians.
7 So it was, when Hiram heard the words of Solomon, that he rejoiced greatly and said,
Blessed be the LORD this day, for He has given David a wise son over this great people!
8 Then Hiram sent to Solomon, saying:
I have considered the message which you sent me, and I will do all you desire concerning the cedar and cypress logs. 9 My servants shall bring them down from Lebanon to the sea; I will float them in rafts by sea to the place you indicate to me, and will have them broken apart there; then you can take them away. And you shall fulfill my desire by giving food for my household.
10 Then Hiram gave Solomon cedar and cypress logs according to all his desire. 11 And Solomon gave Hiram twenty thousand kors of wheat as food for his household, and twenty kors of pressed oil. Thus Solomon gave to Hiram year by year.
12 So the LORD gave Solomon wisdom, as He had promised him; and there was peace between Hiram and Solomon, and the two of them made a treaty together.
13 Then King Solomon raised up a labor force out of all Israel; and the labor force was thirty thousand men. 14 And he sent them to Lebanon, ten thousand a month in shifts: they were one month in Lebanon and two months at home; Adoniram was in charge of the labor force. 15 Solomon had seventy thousand who carried burdens, and eighty thousand who quarried stone in the mountains, 16 besides three thousand three hundred from the chiefs of Solomon’s deputies, who supervised the people who labored in the work. 17 And the king commanded them to quarry large stones, costly stones, and hewn stones, to lay the foundation of the temple. 18 So Solomon’s builders, Hiram’s builders, and the Gebalites quarried them; and they prepared timber and stones to build the temple.



These enemies must be vanquished and the prophetic templates of Psalm 83 and 1 Kings 5 will be fulfilled. Then we see in the subsequent war of Gog/Magog (Ezekiel 38 and Ezekiel 39). Note that this is a very important omission in this exceptional prophetic Scripture, the Word of God which came to Ezekiel -- there is no mention at all of a Temple or daily sacrifice anywhere in either Ezekiel 38 or Ezekiel 39.

After these prophetic wars Israel will be in possession of Lebanon and its timbers. All of the enemies of Gog/Magog, Rosh, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer, Persia, Put and Cush will be buried in Israel in the Valley of the Passenger, which in this present day is located within the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Israel burns the enemy weapons for 7 full years. As a result of the Psalm 83 war Jordan will become the territory of Israel, just as God promised Abraham, and as it was during the times of both David and Solomon's kingdoms. It is no accident that Asaph wrote Psalm 83 when he did (i.e. circa 1000 BC). As a result of the Ezekiel 38/39 war Israel will then have no enemies around her.

So it is after these prophetic wars there will be no enemies around Israel and the stones will then be quaried in preparation for the construction of the Temple, the purification and the reinstitution of Yahweh worship and the daily sacrifice and oblations.

We also know from Scripture that the Temple will be standing during Daniel's 70th Week. Through Bible prophecy we can see the series of events which will lead up to that time.
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I seem to remember that some forty years ago there was talk of a red heifer being help ready for special purposes. Is this the same one?
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There have been several red heifers over the years, but upon turning three years old they had developed hair discolorations and we're declared unfit.
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I don't believe there has been a red heifer around for 40 years; as far as I remember the first time one was found was less then 20 years ago I can't remember the exact year but like Sean said, eventually it developed a dark hair so was declared unfit.

Just the fact that they are around now, at the same time that Israel is once again a nation is a huge sign telling people that they'd better pay attention because the end of the age is upon us!
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A Red Heifer is Alive and Well in Israel!

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/2001

(Israelnationalnews.com) In this highly charged live special two hour broadcast of Temple Talk, Yitzchak Reuven and Rabbi Richman reflect upon the lessons of Purim and modern-day Hamans. They also talk about the relationship between the Golden Calf and the mysterious Red Heifer, including the dramatic revelation of a new red heifer alive and well in Israel at an undisclosed location! Our hosts take some lively calls from listeners and interview Yosef Rabin, a Temple activist working diligently on the International Temple Mount Awareness Day (March 16th) project. How are you going to be active in your community to raise Temple Mount awareness? Rabbi Richman reads an angry, threatening letter from a Moslem, plus a letter from the US government, both indicating that people are defintely taking notice of, and acknowledging the importance of, International Temple Mount Awareness Day. Be part of it!

This week from the TEMPLE INSTITUTE:

WEEKLY TORAH PORTION: KI TISA, with Rabbi Chaim Richman.


Why is is that the golden calf, of which we read in this weeks parasha, is symbolic of the impurity of death, while the red heifer, of which we also read in this weeks special Torah reading, is symbolic of of the pure nature of life eternal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wpqGBUPS6k

LIGHT TO THE NATIONS, with Rabbi Chaim Richman: THE PRIESTLY GARMENTS, PART III: How are the Priestly garments, (bigdei kehuna) fashioned, and what is the spiritual significance of their every detail?

http://universaltorah.com/programmin...to-the-nations

Get ready for INTERNATIONAL TEMPLE MOUNT AWARENESS DAY - Rosh Chodesh Nisan, March 16th. Click here to find out what you can do to help bring the Temple Mount and the Holy Temple back to the forefront of world consciousness:

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BIBLICAL AGE REQUIREMENTS FOR ....."THE RED HEIFER' as an "acceptable sacrifice" Wed Evening: Beginning of Nisan 10 !‏


http://www.templeinstitute.org/red_h...troduction.htm

Verse 2 tells us that the cow is to be red, "without defect, in which there is no blemish.." and it is to be a cow which has never had a yoke upon it. This does tell us some things but not all. There are oral traditions surrounding the cow and the requirements. It is generally accepted that the cow must be 3 years of age before it is eligible for sacrifice. The orthodox rabbis also say that 3 black or white hairs on the animal will render it invalid....there is some apparent disagreement about this point.The cow is to be a heifer, which by definition is a young cow which has never borne a calf.


Numbers 19:

1: And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
2: This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke:
3: And ye shall give her unto Eleazar the priest, that he may bring her forth without the camp, and one shall slay her before his face:
4: And Eleazar the priest shall take of her blood with his finger, and sprinkle of her blood directly before the tabernacle of the congregation seven times:
5: And one shall burn the heifer in his sight; her skin, and her flesh, and her blood, with her dung, shall he burn:
6: And the priest shall take cedar wood, and hyssop, and scarlet, and cast it into the midst of the burning of the heifer.
7: Then the priest shall wash his clothes, and he shall bathe his flesh in water, and afterward he shall come into the camp, and the priest shall be unclean until the even.
8: And he that burneth her shall wash his clothes in water, and bathe his flesh in water, and shall be unclean until the even.
9: And a man that is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer, and lay them up without the camp in a clean place, and it shall be kept for the congregation of the children of Israel for a water of separation: it is a purification for sin.
10: And he that gathereth the ashes of the heifer shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: and it shall be unto the children of Israel, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among them, for a statute for ever.
11: He that toucheth the dead body of any man shall be unclean seven days.
12: He shall purify himself with it on the third day, and on the seventh day he shall be clean: but if he purify not himself the third day, then the seventh day he shall not be clean.
13: Whosoever toucheth the dead body of any man that is dead, and purifieth not himself, defileth the tabernacle of the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him


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Yes, good Berean work sister, you are exactly correct according to the Word.

What I continue wonder about is if in our modern-day search for the necessary pure red heifer we miss the also possible discovery of pure red heifer ashes stored for millennia within the subterreanean recesses of Mount Moriah.
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Marianne,

Yes, good Berean work sister, you are exactly correct according to the Word.

What I continue wonder about is if in our modern-day search for the necessary pure red heifer we miss the also possible discovery of pure red heifer ashes stored for millennia within the subterreanean recesses of Mount Moriah.
I will thank sister Miriam .. I keep in contact with her through email..

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There seems to be a lot of tradition involved. Is it all accurate or necessary?
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Tradition? I"m not sure what you're talking about jtheb? Everything surrounding the red heifer is what God told them to do; it's in the bible, so to me that's not tradition..
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"There are oral traditions surrounding the cow and the requirements. It is generally accepted that the cow must be 3 years of age before it is eligible for sacrifice. The orthodox rabbis also say that 3 black or white hairs on the animal will render it invalid....there is some apparent disagreement about this point.The cow is to be a heifer, which by definition is a young cow which has never borne a calf."

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oh ok, sorry; I'm just confused because I wasn't aware of any "traditions" other then what the Bible itself says... anyway, I've done some looking and will share what I've found about it:


The ordinance of the Red Heifer is found in Numbers Chapter 19. I suggest that you stop and read the chapter and then continue reading this posting. I will not print the whole chapter here but will refer to it as we progress.

Verse 2 tells us that the cow is to be red, "without defect, in which there is no blemish.." and it is to be a cow which has never had a yoke upon it. This does tell us some things but not all. There are oral traditions surrounding the cow and the requirements. It is generally accepted that the cow must be 3 years of age before it is eligible for sacrifice. The orthodox rabbis also say that 3 black or white hairs on the animal will render it invalid....there is some apparent disagreement about this point.The cow is to be a heifer, which by definition is a young cow which has never borne a calf. .......

......According to oral traditions, when a red cow was required, one simply "appeared" in the herds of Israel. The last one was in the herd of a Gentile, during the first century, before the destruction of the Temple. I have also been told there are two counts as to the number of red cows sacrificed. One says there have been 9 and another source says only 7. Either way it is a rare sacrifice. My personal opinion is that God is well able to provide His own sacrifice when needed. Breeding a cow and attempting to bring it to Israel is a little like Abraham taking Hagar in his effort to "help" God fulfill His promises. I would be very skeptical of this being acceptable......and again there is the possibility that the unacceptable nature of the cow would be a part of the end-time problems. ......

........As we read in Numbers 19, the Red Heifer is to be taken to a place outside the camp, verse 3, and be slaughtered there. Verse 4 tells us that some of the blood is to be taken and sprinkled toward the front of the tent of meeting. Then the cow is to be burned; it's skin, flesh, hide, dung and blood. It is to be burned with cedar wood, hyssop and scarlet stuff and cast them into the midst of the fire. The fire would have to be built and continued to burn the whole cow into ash. This would create a fairly large quantity of ash. Again from rabbinic sources, we are told that there were several portions of ash that were collected. This ash was mixed with water to create the water of purification and was used to cleanse those who came into contact with the dead or were otherwise defiled.

Verse 9 tell us that a man who is clean must gather the ash and put it in a "clean place outside the camp" . This is a specific place. During the Temple periods this place was/is on the Mount of Olives. The altar of sacrifice and place of burning for the Red Heifer was at or near the top of the Mount of Olives.

The gates of Jerusalem are named for their use. The Dung Gate leads out to the Hinnom Valley where the refuse of the city was deposited and burned. Jaffa Gate leads to Jaffa. Damascus Gate lead to Damascus and so on.....

In Nehemiah 3:31 we read about the Gate Miphkad (KJV). Looking at the word Miphkad we can see that it means "appointed" and is translated so in several renderings. The word Miphkad appears in Ezekiel 43:21 also where it is translated appointed. This is referring to a specific place not a place in general. The rabbis have named the altar of sacrifice for the Red Heifer as the "Miphkad Altar". It is interesting that the passage in Ezekiel is speaking about the sin offering. There is a connection there, but I will not try to go into it right now.

The significance for us is in regard to the rebuilding of the Temple. The Temple Mount has been trodden down by Gentiles for nearly 2000 years. The Temple was destroyed after it was defiled by Titus and has laid waste until covered over by Islam. Before a Temple can be rebuilt, the site must be cleansed. Before animal sacrifice can be reinstated, the site and stone altar ( of course an altar must be constructed first) must be cleansed.

This is why a Red Heifer is required. I still see a problem. Before a Red Heifer can be sacrificed and burned, there must be access to the altar site and place of burning on the Mount of Olives. The Mount of Olives is nearly all controlled by Arabs. The approximate site of the altar and place of burning is under Arab control and is "trodden down by Gentiles" and must be cleansed prior to any sacrifice or offering being made. Remember the requirements mentioned in Numbers 19:9..... a clean place outside the camp. There is no clean place outside the camp, it has been defiled. I, therefore, believe that a quantity of ash from the last cow or "Ash of old" must be found and used to purify the site before a new cow can be offered.


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That I can say Amen to! And as far as any traditions or anything else that has to be "worked out", I'm sure the Lord can take care of whatever they are too. It will certainly be interesting to be able to watch and see how He does it though won't it?
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I was aware of the red heifer over sixty years ago. My query was how much that was said was biblical and how much tradition.

I could have refered and answered my own question I suppose but I like to hear others ideas.
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This subject has always fascinated me but I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't studied it as thoroughly as I could have. If I had, I would have been aware that there were traditions involved and I obviously wasn't aware of that. But I can't get it out of my mind. I know that those articles said that one of the traditions was surrounding how many black hairs would disqualify the cow, and yet I'm sure I remember reading in the Old Testament that the Lord told them how many was unacceptable... I haven't found that yet and it might just be all in my head too, but in the process of looking I thought I'd share what some of my commentaries say about this for anyone else that's interested. (I mean what they say about the whole subject of the red Heifer, not just how it's disqualified)

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Numbers 19:1-2 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: “This is a requirement of the law that the Lord has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke.

As usual, purification involved vicarious sacrifice so the community must provide a red heifer without defect or blemish . . . that had never been put to work in plowing. Though this was a sin offering (v. 9), it was different because its purpose was not expiatory. Its purpose was not to remove sin itself, but to remove the contamination of sin which death represented. A red animal perhaps symbolized the blood. The fact that it was to be unbroken suggests that it must be well and whole, strong in every way—a pure and pristine animal fit to accomplish the sacred role for which it had been selected.
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2. This is the ordinance of the lawan institution of a peculiar nature ordained by law for the purification of sin, and provided at the public expense because it was for the good of the whole community.
Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, &c.—This is the only case in which the color of the victim is specified. It has been supposed the ordinance was designed in opposition to the superstitious notions of the Egyptians. That people never offered a vow but they sacrificed a red bull, the greatest care being taken by their priests in examining whether it possessed the requisite characteristics, and it was an annual offering to Typhon, their evil being. By the choice, both of the sex and the color, provision was made for eradicating from the minds of the Israelites a favorite Egyptian superstition regarding two objects of their animal worship.
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19:1–22 The ritual described provided purification from uncleanness caused by contact with the dead. As life represents what is holy, so death represents sin. In some aspects this ritual was unique among OT rites: (1) the heifer was slaughtered (v. 3) outside the camp, not sacrificed at the altar; (2) the blood and offal (v. 5) were included in the burning, rather than the blood being poured on the altar; (3) the ashes (v. 9), rather than the water, were the cleansing agent (see Numbers 19:17-18; Heb 9:13).
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19:1–22 The atonement provided by the priests and Levites furnished one answer to the fearful question of the people in 17:13. The provision of waters of purification described in this chapter furnished another. This was an unusual rite for the purpose of cleansing anyone who was defiled by association with death. Otherwise their impurity would defile the tabernacle so that God could no longer dwell with Israel (vv. 9, 13, 20). Such a person was to be purified by the application of water which had been mixed with ashes of a red (perhaps symbolic of blood) heifer prepared according to specific regulations (a kind of “instant sin offering”). This ritual is compared to the atoning sacrifice of Jesus in Heb 9:13-14.
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As a holy and separated people, the Jews had to avoid ritual uncleanness of all kinds, especially contamination from dead bodies. No doubt there were hygienic purposes behind this law, but it also reminded the people to avoid sin because of the defilement it brings. God dwelt in the camp and no one was to defile it. The application for today is found in 2 Corinthians 6:14–7:1.

God made provision for restoring persons who became defiled. Blood had to be shed, for the heifer was a sin offering (v. 9). The ashes from the sacrifice were ceremonially clean and were used to make “water of purification.” The defiled person could be ceremonially cleansed by obeying God’s instructions and using the water of purification.

Water for washing is a picture of the Word of God (John 15:3; Eph. 5:25–27). The Word promises us cleansing because the blood of God’s Son was shed for us on the cross (1 John 1:5–2:2). The Word also provides cleansing for the inner person as we read it, meditate on it, and apply it to our lives.

Why should we be defiled and defile others when God’s gracious cleansing is available?

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Numbers 19:3-8 Give it to Eleazar the priest; it is to be taken outside the camp and slaughtered in his presence. Then Eleazar the priest is to take some of its blood on his finger and sprinkle it seven times toward the front of the Tent of Meeting. While he watches, the heifer is to be burned—its hide, flesh, blood and offal. The priest is to take some cedar wood, hyssop and scarlet wool and throw them onto the burning heifer. After that, the priest must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water. He may then come into the camp, but he will be ceremonially unclean till evening. The man who burns it must also wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he too will be unclean till evening.

19:3-8. After the priest officiated at the slaughter of the heifer outside the camp (to represent the physical removal of the impurity from the people), he sprinkled some of its blood . . . seven times toward the tabernacle. This indicated that the offering was being made to the Lord. Then the heifer was totally consumed by fire, along with cedar wood, hyssop, and scarlet wool. These three materials were also used in the ritual of purification of skin disease (Lev. 14:1-9). Cedar was chosen because it is evergreen and aromatic, the hyssop because of its application of the blood at the Exodus (cf. Ps. 51:7; Ex. 12:22), and the scarlet wool because it symbolizes the blood itself.

The ashes of all these and the heifer were mixed and served as the agent by which cleansing could take place (Num. 19:9). When the ritual was completed the priest and his assistant (v. 8) would be unclean just by virtue of preparing the ashes of purification. In a paradoxical way, the handling of holy things made him who did so ceremonially unclean (cf. Lev. 16:26-28). This is because these objects became invested with the uncleanness which they were to remove.
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3–6. ye shall give her unto Eleazar the priest that he may bring her forth without the campHe was the second or deputy high priest, and he was selected for this duty because the execution of it entailed temporary defilement, from which the acting high priest was to be preserved with the greatest care. It was led “forth without the camp,” in accordance with the law regarding victims laden with the sins of the people, and thus typical of Christ (Heb 13:12; also Le 24:14). The priest was to sprinkle the blood “seven times” before—literally, “towards” or “near” the tabernacle, a description which seems to imply either that he carried a portion of the blood in a basin to the door of the tabernacle (Le 4:17), or that in the act of sprinkling he turned his face towards the sacred edifice, being disqualified through the defiling influence of this operation from approaching close to it. By this attitude he indicated that he was presenting an expiatory sacrifice, for the acceptance of which he hoped, in the grace of God, by looking to the mercy seat. Every part of it was consumed by fire except the blood used in sprinkling, and the ingredients mixed with the ashes were the same as those employed in the sprinkling of lepers (Le 14:4–7). It was a water of separation—that is, of “sanctification” for the people of Israel.
7. the priest shall be unclean until the evenThe ceremonies prescribed show the imperfection of the Levitical priesthood, while they typify the condition of Christ when expiating our sins (2Co 5:21).
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19:3 Eleazar, Aaron’s successor, performs the rite that produces the ashes. This is probably to protect Aaron (or the high priest in succeeding generations) from defilement and the chance of incurring iniquity and dying in the performance of his duties. Eleazar does not slaughter it himself or participate in the burning in order to avoid touching the corpse, since he has to return to the tabernacle to sprinkle blood before it.
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